The U.S. Supreme Court issued a ruling yesterday that upholds Michigan's right to bar racial preference in college admissions. Or, at least we think so. Host Ben Kieffer talks with Associate Professor of Political Science Tim Hagle from University of Iowa, and Joan and Abbott Lipsky Professor of Political Science Bruce Nesmith of Coe College about the ruling and what it means. The opinions are confusing at best. They also discuss the conflict in Ukraine, and the grassroots mobilization around a 2016 presidential run for Hillary Rodham Clinton.